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	<title>Comments on: Model Driven Development with Flex 4 and LCDS 3 Screencast</title>
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		<title>By: Antony Jukes</title>
		<link>http://coenraets.org/blog/2009/09/flex4mdd/comment-page-1/#comment-363358</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony Jukes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Christophe, firstly thanks for a great tutorial..

I have come across an issue using multiple model driven forms in the same application, 
(http://help.adobe.com/en_US/LiveCycleDataServicesES/3.0/Installing/lcds30_releasenotes.html) (bug LCDS-1119)

In a nut shell, if you are editing a LCDS model driven form in one area of your application it will directly effect the other model driven forms within the same app, it makes no difference whether the the forms are located in different states or components  etc.
 
I understand that this is a bug but just wondering if you know of a workaround or if a new bug fix release of LCDS 3 is due anytime soon?? I am currently using  release October 09.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christophe, firstly thanks for a great tutorial..</p>
<p>I have come across an issue using multiple model driven forms in the same application,<br />
(<a href="http://help.adobe.com/en_US/LiveCycleDataServicesES/3.0/Installing/lcds30_releasenotes.html" rel="nofollow">http://help.adobe.com/en_US/LiveCycleDataServicesES/3.0/Installing/lcds30_releasenotes.html</a>) (bug LCDS-1119)</p>
<p>In a nut shell, if you are editing a LCDS model driven form in one area of your application it will directly effect the other model driven forms within the same app, it makes no difference whether the the forms are located in different states or components  etc.</p>
<p>I understand that this is a bug but just wondering if you know of a workaround or if a new bug fix release of LCDS 3 is due anytime soon?? I am currently using  release October 09.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Quelques nouveautés Adobe &#124; Blog Objet Direct</title>
		<link>http://coenraets.org/blog/2009/09/flex4mdd/comment-page-1/#comment-354243</link>
		<dc:creator>Quelques nouveautés Adobe &#124; Blog Objet Direct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] L&#8217;outil génère ainsi la couche service à partir du modèle objet défini sous Eclipse, le déploie sur le serveur LiveCycle, et le connecte à l&#8217;interface Flex, tout cela en quelques clics. Pour vous faire une idée des possibilités, une vidéo de démonstration (la même qu&#8217;au séminaire):  http://coenraets.org/blog/2009/09/flex4mdd/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] L&#8217;outil génère ainsi la couche service à partir du modèle objet défini sous Eclipse, le déploie sur le serveur LiveCycle, et le connecte à l&#8217;interface Flex, tout cela en quelques clics. Pour vous faire une idée des possibilités, une vidéo de démonstration (la même qu&#8217;au séminaire):  <a href="http://coenraets.org/blog/2009/09/flex4mdd/" rel="nofollow">http://coenraets.org/blog/2009/09/flex4mdd/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie McKenzie</title>
		<link>http://coenraets.org/blog/2009/09/flex4mdd/comment-page-1/#comment-353996</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie McKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I also add that it is great to see someone going that little bit further when creating a tutorial. Things like adding a search feature that doesn&#039;t just filter the current array collection but instead  utilises a call to the server and other bits like field validation and the use of model/class properties to only show a field based on a certain criteria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I also add that it is great to see someone going that little bit further when creating a tutorial. Things like adding a search feature that doesn&#8217;t just filter the current array collection but instead  utilises a call to the server and other bits like field validation and the use of model/class properties to only show a field based on a certain criteria.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie McKenzie</title>
		<link>http://coenraets.org/blog/2009/09/flex4mdd/comment-page-1/#comment-353965</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie McKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this is what the community have really been waiting for !! The Model Driven Development features are a breath of fresh air when it comes to knocking up a skeleton for your application. This really does streamline some of the development and modelling tasks. 

Do Adobe plan on providing the same functionality for the other technologies like coldfusion and php etc.? If so, then this would really make flex stand out from the rest of the RIA development tools. 

For php I don&#039;t see why not, as creating php classes, models etc. should be quite similar. it would probably tie the basic user into using one particular framework like ZendAMF, although anyone with a bit of experience could remodel the generated classes etc. to suit their framework or oop technique.

Regarding your tutorial / demo video it would be great if you could demonstrate how to turn the objects returned in the data grid into usable entities like item renderers / editors. For example if you could demonstrate the following;

An item renderer/item editor using a combo box for the IndustryId field
An item renderer/item editor using a checkbox for the publicCompany field

I know this is adds a little complication to the demo and its not your responsibility to show us how to do everything possible with flash builder but it would really be helpful as there are no concrete examples that I know of on the net showing this sort of functionality using a service orientated dataprovider (I have seen some which use inline static arrays or static array collections). And personally believe Adobe should be making lighter work of creating item renderers using combo boxes / dropdownlists within a datagrid or form.

I believe the quicker developers can get up to speed using flash builder to do common tasks and ui interoperability the better the product will become and having persons like yourself doing an excellent job giving us developers an insight into the possibilities of the product is invaluable.

Your Sales Builder App is awesome too and would recommend anyone interested in creating air or flex applications to take a look, beginners and experienced programmers alike as there are some excellent examples of how to model your app, mvc layout and integrating external libraries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this is what the community have really been waiting for !! The Model Driven Development features are a breath of fresh air when it comes to knocking up a skeleton for your application. This really does streamline some of the development and modelling tasks. </p>
<p>Do Adobe plan on providing the same functionality for the other technologies like coldfusion and php etc.? If so, then this would really make flex stand out from the rest of the RIA development tools. </p>
<p>For php I don&#8217;t see why not, as creating php classes, models etc. should be quite similar. it would probably tie the basic user into using one particular framework like ZendAMF, although anyone with a bit of experience could remodel the generated classes etc. to suit their framework or oop technique.</p>
<p>Regarding your tutorial / demo video it would be great if you could demonstrate how to turn the objects returned in the data grid into usable entities like item renderers / editors. For example if you could demonstrate the following;</p>
<p>An item renderer/item editor using a combo box for the IndustryId field<br />
An item renderer/item editor using a checkbox for the publicCompany field</p>
<p>I know this is adds a little complication to the demo and its not your responsibility to show us how to do everything possible with flash builder but it would really be helpful as there are no concrete examples that I know of on the net showing this sort of functionality using a service orientated dataprovider (I have seen some which use inline static arrays or static array collections). And personally believe Adobe should be making lighter work of creating item renderers using combo boxes / dropdownlists within a datagrid or form.</p>
<p>I believe the quicker developers can get up to speed using flash builder to do common tasks and ui interoperability the better the product will become and having persons like yourself doing an excellent job giving us developers an insight into the possibilities of the product is invaluable.</p>
<p>Your Sales Builder App is awesome too and would recommend anyone interested in creating air or flex applications to take a look, beginners and experienced programmers alike as there are some excellent examples of how to model your app, mvc layout and integrating external libraries.</p>
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		<title>By: Program Yükle</title>
		<link>http://coenraets.org/blog/2009/09/flex4mdd/comment-page-1/#comment-353185</link>
		<dc:creator>Program Yükle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you admin goood</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you admin goood</p>
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		<title>By: Ricardo</title>
		<link>http://coenraets.org/blog/2009/09/flex4mdd/comment-page-1/#comment-350388</link>
		<dc:creator>Ricardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.  

One problem.
Flash Builder/Data Model/RDS Dataview/
message of Alert: 

&quot;Unable to contact the RDS Server
Connection refused:connect&quot;

And now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.  </p>
<p>One problem.<br />
Flash Builder/Data Model/RDS Dataview/<br />
message of Alert: </p>
<p>&#8220;Unable to contact the RDS Server<br />
Connection refused:connect&#8221;</p>
<p>And now?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://coenraets.org/blog/2009/09/flex4mdd/comment-page-1/#comment-350141</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will it be possible to modify the code generation patterns? For instance, will it be possible to generate the persistance layer with JPA/EJB instead of Hibernate or any other type of technology?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will it be possible to modify the code generation patterns? For instance, will it be possible to generate the persistance layer with JPA/EJB instead of Hibernate or any other type of technology?</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Vaz</title>
		<link>http://coenraets.org/blog/2009/09/flex4mdd/comment-page-1/#comment-344878</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Vaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice presentation. I´m exciting to use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice presentation. I´m exciting to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://coenraets.org/blog/2009/09/flex4mdd/comment-page-1/#comment-343825</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Christophe,

I&#039;ve noticed some differences in the version of (i think...) the fiber modeller you use in the demo and the one we&#039;ve used so far. Our version of the modeller plugin (and the one still offered for download) is dated: 15 June 2009. In our version there are no relations visible in the .fml design view and also the generate model driven form does not work as well as you demonstrate. Is it possible you have a different version or are we just noobz?

Thanks in advance,
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christophe,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed some differences in the version of (i think&#8230;) the fiber modeller you use in the demo and the one we&#8217;ve used so far. Our version of the modeller plugin (and the one still offered for download) is dated: 15 June 2009. In our version there are no relations visible in the .fml design view and also the generate model driven form does not work as well as you demonstrate. Is it possible you have a different version or are we just noobz?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance,<br />
Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Amichai Lesser</title>
		<link>http://coenraets.org/blog/2009/09/flex4mdd/comment-page-1/#comment-341426</link>
		<dc:creator>Amichai Lesser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Christophe,
Great demo.
Any chance we can see a BlazeDS based version of the demo?

Thanks,
Amichai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christophe,<br />
Great demo.<br />
Any chance we can see a BlazeDS based version of the demo?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Amichai</p>
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